Strange statement via the Webz

Posted: December 1, 2009 in Art, Sports

“Sport is for people who don’t know how to be creative.”

I find this to be a very strange statement.  Why?  I guess because I never figured that a love of watching or playing sports automatically rendered the creative side of the brain dead or dormant, and thus those who are involved in athletics or watch sports un-creative.    Aside from myself (who loves sports and also loves to write, draw, paint, dance, and make costumes) I know a lot of people who engage in both sport and creative activities.  I know a guy who is good writer and also likes basketball a lot.  I know a woman who is into watercolor painting, singing, theatre, and rugby.  I know a dude who writes his own music, writes and films his own movies, plays several instruments, and also loves to surf and skateboard.  I ran track with a gal who was quite the middle distance runner but if you set her loose with a propane torch and some metal, she would come up with some really cool and different sculptures.  I knew a ton of folk in theatre who also ran, or played soccer, or softball.  I got three varsity letters in sports in highschool, played two sports in college, and still managed to win awards for writing and art and be in several stage plays.   And personally, I am not sure how you look at something like this, or this, and do not see just how sports and creativity often really do just go hand in hand…ayep, all the way from the Olympics to a TV dance show…sport and creativity in concert and all.

Oh, wait, I get it…those sports are different?  Maybe?  Something?  I mean, those aren’t NFL football or futbol or basket ball or hockey or…whatever, eh?  Hummm.  Well, I believe there is some creativity there too.   People don’t think of doing stuff like this without some creative mind processes going on.

Who knows, maybe I just get annoyed when people assume jocks or athletes or sports fans are cretins whom are incapable of creating or appreciating art or being creative people or thinkers.

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Comments
  1. basketball? ha real men don’t play sports involving dribbling round balls!

  2. Lindsay says:

    “Sport is for people who don’t know how to be creative.”

    Ugh, that’s right up there with “comics are for people who don’t read real books” on the list of snooty assertions that really annoy me.

    (I usually like Aileen, too, and wouldn’t’ve thought she’d be the type to make snooty assertions.)

  3. Ernest Greene says:

    For radfems, sports are the new porn.

  4. Rachel S. says:

    Dance.

    That’s the only response one need pose to such a statement.

    • Yeah, but a lot of people don’t consider dance to be athletic at all. HA, I say recounting 14 years of ballet-induced muscle development and cardio and strength. And blood, sweat and tears.

  5. Brown Shoes says:

    Let’s not forget about Dan Marino’s infamous fake-kneel play that he used to burn the (I think) Jets. If all creativity involves is essentially innovation or making something new out of the parts you have (Sid Gillman and everything that has come from your hated Chargers) then certainly sports are all about it.

    Additionally, anyone who claims there’s no creativity in hockey has never seen Dominik Hasek make a save or Alexander Ovechkin take a shot at net.

    • Ren says:

      That marino play was priceless. And the Mike Shanahan call which was the first of the pre FG time out craze…and the whole NHL theory of Mr. Gretzky’s office, and Ovetchkin,

      oh yeah, it was the jets.

  6. berryblade says:

    cool story bro.

  7. rootietoot says:

    oh phooey that’s ridiculous. Sport involves planning, and strategy, and being able to keep oneself involved even when driving in circles for 4 hours (NASCAR is TOTALLY sport! Fie on anyone who says otherwise!)

    The person who said that perhaps didn’t get picked first in middle school, and can’t get over it. (and no, I *never* got picked first, and am athletic as…a loaf of bread.)

    • jovan1984 says:

      I agree, rootietoot! Strategy came into play in at least one-sixth of the 36 Sprint Cup races this past season (the season ended on Nov. 22). Two of those events ended in rain, and another two ended with drivers favored by the bookies in Las Vegas to win that particular event running out of fuel.

  8. Gaina says:

    Oh Gordon Bennett!. that’s the kind of bollocks my ‘intellectual’ Contextual Studies tutor comes out with in a vain attempt to prove he’s cooler and more clever than us ‘working class’ people.

  9. Roy Kay says:

    Well, it is certainly our great luck to be steered in the direction of true creativity.

    I’m not a huge sports guy, but I can get pretty excited about a well executed play or some unlooked-for wrinkle in the game.

  10. Erik says:

    I have two words for antisocial butterfly: ancient Greece. A culture (I know better than to use the hot-button word “civilization” around this crowd) that invented drama as we know it and imprinted architecture, sculpture and other plastic arts in ways that are with us still. Also a culture that was mad for sport. Opposing sport to creativity is a variety of philistinism. It has its roots, I suppose, in the reaction of mauve decade aesthetes to the sports-minded hearties of Oxford and Cambridge, but isn’t it time we got over all that?

    And let me take this opportunity to say hooray for: New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Rays (though I wish they still had the Devil in them), Pittsburgh Penguins, Washington Bayhawks, Tottenham Hotspur and Fluminense FC. Also William Turner (especially “Sunrise with Seamonsters”, Mozart (especially “Don Giovanni”), C.P. Cavafy (especially “Ithaka”), Mark Morris (especially “Dido and Aeneas”), and Louis Sullivan (especially the Carson Pirie Scott building). Not to mention Roosevelt Grier’s needlework – proof positive of the synergy of art and sport.

  11. rootietoot says:

    “mauve decade aesthetes ” Bahahahahahahaaa! *oh dear*( deeep breath) AAhahahhahahaa!

    • Erik says:

      I gather from the transliterated donkey noises that you have little time for Aubrey Beardsley, Oscar Wilde et al. You might like, however, the 1989 movie “The Mauve Decade.” Here is the plot synopsis from IMDB:

      A group of indolent bonvivants stage an accident in order to cadge money for alcohol. The scheme backfires when one of the conspirators is simply too lazy to fulfill his particular function. The others have little time to regret their brief bursts of enterprise, as, in a delightful pixelated sequence, they are flattened by a passing coal truck.

      • rootietoot says:

        that sounds distressingly like my 18 yr old’s entire life.

        And those aren’t “donkey noises” , those are…hm…Other Sounds Similar To Donkey Noises, but not exactly.

        • Erik says:

          Your 18 year old is an indolent bonvivant … Congratulations! Usually takes generations of aristocratic inbreeding not to mention a very expensive education to produce such a result. Clearly you have succeeded as a parent, and now you are entitled to relax and spend your wonder years living like Sunny Von Bulow.

          • rootietoot says:

            and to think all this time I thought he was a lazy dilettante. And I am relieved to know that we can bypass the expensive education and inbreeding and go straight to 28 years of a persistent vegetative state.

  12. FW says:

    I hate sports, to play or to watch, but even I know it takes creativity. At the very least the fact that there are play books considered invaluable and top-sectret can attest to that. It’s strategy, and that takes creativity out the wazoo.

  13. FW says:

    yes, top sectret, like a cult.

  14. What a load of crap. Sports is just as creative a human endeavor as any other.

  15. hexyhex says:

    “I got three varsity letters in sports in highschool”

    I do not understand what this means. Translate, please?

    As for the original assertion, I certainly don’t think that there is anything about sport or creative thinking that by necessity excludes the other. I do think that the culture built up around certain sports, or held by certain circles associated with certain sports, promotes the belittling of creative thinking, academic or artistic prowess, and any form of “creativity” deemed even remotely feminine. And I think that’s a huge problem.

    The situation might be different in the US, but somehow I doubt it.

    • Ren says:

      a varsity letter is a thing you get for playing sports in High School over here in the states. You get one per sport. Then (if you are the jock type) you get a jacket and put ’em on it. Its all very odd, but basically a “letter” means you were an athlete in highschool

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